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are Looking for Staff!

Tonight Live, produced by the Paisley Beebe’s production Company “In a Perfect World Productions” has been on air on SLCN.TV for over a year now, and is consistently the highest rated TV show in Second Life without question.

We are looking for 2 Staff members who are passionate about Media, and want to make a career in Real Life/Virtual media or have a background in Real Life or Virtual Media.

Perfect World Productions prides ourself on our professional approach to broadcasting in the virtual World, we are looking for staff that have enough time and commitment to take this new emerging media seriously.

If you think Second Life is “Just a Game” Do Not Apply. We are not for you!

We have several shows in pre-production and there is lots of exiting fun and very Challenging and rewarding work for the right person!

If you have at least 6 months full immersion in SL, a background in creatives, are reliable, and super organized we want to meet you!

You must watch at least 5 episodes of Tonight Live at www.slcn.tv and at least 1 live show being filmed as an audience member, before we will even speak to you….know what we are about!

If you have a serious interest in Television Broadcasting and think you have the qualifications and ability we need, please contact Producer Delinda Dyrssen in world by IM or send an email to perfectworldprods@gmail.com with a notecard or email about your background, and real life and virtual contact details for you.

over 40 episodes of Tonight Live with Paisley Beebe can be viewed on www.slcn.tv

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This Music World

I joined SLMC forum for the SL music industry, when it was started by Slim Warrior last year. The original idea for the forum was because the original one started by the Lindens after the Second Life community Conference was a really awful UI and no one could navigate it..That forum was set up so that Linden Lab could start to understand what the music industry here in SL wanted. At the time we had threads talking about getting the word out there to the bigger population, of SL finding ways of getting to those those 80% of users out there that didn’t know about live music, in SL and how to find it. And I contributed what I could to the discussion.

I stopped contributing when it was clear that my posts were being ignored and any ideas I had were not even discussed or dismissed just ignored…and it seemed to me like there was a different agenda. Now you might think that I have sour grapes over the entire thing, possibly?? but really… I just got disappointed that the forum was not going to do what it set out to do, or maybe it did which was to…

“The forum is here to encourage discussion/views and general information in one place as a music community.
Whether you be a Live Musician, DJ, Venue Owner, Host, Builder, Scripter, or you have anything to do with Second Life Music in any way, here is the Main Music forum for users of SL, to discuss your ideas, solutions, experiences etc and hopefully we can all gain a better understanding of how to make it work for all of us.”

Somewhere in that mission statement I misread it, thinking that some sort of ideas might be actually agreed on and acted on..From memory I remember one wonderful thing happening, which was that the Lindens put the announcement about live music on the login page..so at least if you are in front of your computer while logging in and not picking your toes waiting, you might see something about live events in the SL search. It was a great victory for those that suggested it..

Did the masses flock to concerts after that? not really …because the problems with our music industry and why it is not supported by a lot more of the population is much more complex than just telling people to find out where live music is in Live Events in search.

Why am I writing this piece here when this blog has mostly been a place just announcing fun things and my show…because I didn’t get a hearing over at SLMC. And at anytime my post can be cut off and re assigned too a new thread therefor losing context and meaning.

You may judge for yourself if I was out of line or misunderstood by visiting here..

and then here

The reason the post was split was because there was a post inferring that the Thread had been “Jacked” I’ll let you be the judge of that. As far as Im concerned it was the same subject matter.

The forum from what I can see is generally a well supported forum with the usual scraps, slander,rants and good pats on the back, and jokes.

But I think if you go back to its inception you can pretty much cut and paste many of the venue verses vs artist payment verses tips, from the beginning and paste them into the latest ones.In many many cases the same arguments are going on, new musicians and venue owners come in, talk about tips, venues managers agents ect…and it goes round and round. With the exception of Silas Scarborough who invented a tip jar that split tips and that caused a whole other discussion shall I say.

This time round it was very much the same discussion I got into, and left as I did last time, but in response to a different stimulus. I have to say that I got the same response, as before and as a result I quit again. i.e don’t come on to SL and try to make a living as an artist, just be grateful you have anyone listen to you. And no we don’t want any changes thank you along those lines..back in your box. Fine for those with another income, but not fine if you all you are is a musician with Real Life restrictions preventing you from working in RL, and you want to invest in SL far more than just playing for pocket money..Last time I posted I kept hearing how SL was not ready for ticketed events the idea of charging for entry and actually getting the consumer to pay was to many disloyal and abhorrent. So again the musician is treated as the wandering vagrant who owes the world his songs, but if you want to build, or sell a product that was considered ok… apparently there wasn’t room for both. Thats what it was perceived by many many I spoke to not just me.

I’m all for griping and ranting I love a good rant, but after I get over the rant, typically I want something positive to come of it..so I change something..or move on…I don’t keep ranting..except of course for these 2 posts

The argument for those that don’t want to read reams and reams of posts, (mine especially) it was a thread set up about a post that Phoenix Psaltery had put up on the Metaverse Messenger a post that was a follow on from a post from Crap Mariner on his own blog, read it here

and here

There was also a post on another thread, on SLMC here where a venue owner named and shamed a long term SL musician for informing her that he charged 15K for an hour gig. apparently with a derisive laugh,,,? but he never got the chance to challenge this as he was not on the forum, the thread then turned into a dogfight about poor venues the cheek of him and how ridiculous the fee was and who had ever heard of him anyway, all lovely stuff… for a forum supposedly supporting artists and venues.

After my posts were starting to be taken entirely the wrong way, due I believe in part to some of the posters pre-conceived ideas. I bowed out, and wrote privately to the moderator apologizing for the fact that the post I wrote was misinterpreted…2 posts were misinterpreted …and after I qualified them, I was disbeleived and accused of changing my tact to cover up my intentions totally untrue.

If you read my previous posts on the subject you can see this.

this below was my final post, to the forum, unedited.

ok I give up… every thing I have said is now being taken the wrong way, I have actually interviewed and talked to over 40 musicians personally and I know many known reasons for why they play here..and none have said for the money, and I don’t think Dan was asking that..he wanted to know why if you wern’t getting paid your due you didn’t give up why you kept playing why don’t you go out and play in RL insinuating ( I thought correct me if Im wrong) that you probably can’t because you are …..horrible. I said and I will say this only once more…because I think ive said it about 3 times and I think thats way to many times..some musicians can play for tips some can’t simple as that! they all have different financial situations and personal situations in real life, and some actually believe that the’re time is worth more than tips… so be it, no one seriously becomes a musician in SL or RL for money…if they do they are nuts…

I’ve actually suggested many ideas here in this thread and I attempted to support both venues and musicians in my arguments, NO Threats in any way were made! the suggestions so far have mostly been ignored. I’d say thats why a lot of people give up on this list, they are shouted down and they wonder what its all for if, we all just grumble and bitch and don’t do anything…its one thing to talk about ideas and another to do it…Im leaving now, as Im worn out trying to explain my posts..which only need to be read in the context in which they were written, I hold no ill
will to anyone my suggestion was to just live and let live and don’t name and shame! pay or don’t pay, play or dont play, and if you don’t like something change it, move on, or shut up…and I apply that to myself too I will now officially shut up.
sorry bye all

And I stand by that.

Since I posted that Ive had a few emails of support about this post.

The thread is still going, and Ive now been accused of insisting that my ideas should be acted upon, another case of someone reading into my words what they “thought” I said. I was accused of not writing clearly, but its also true that if you already have your mind made up… you read things the way you want to.

The person who was named and shamed is not someone I know personally, perhaps there was already a history with this person, that caused him to receive such harsh judgment? without hearing his side of the story, its hard to say… be that as it may, I defend his right to charge what he wants! and I defend the right of code of conduct! that means that Venues should be discreet and not go round publicly announcing Artists rates of pay, over the internet or anywhere else!, if you did this in RL you would soon be abandoned by many artists fearful of having their rate of pay bandied about in a smiler humiliating fashion, no matter how it was presented to the said person. I have had experience when I inadvertently asked a venue owner about another artist and was told that they wouldn’t discuss the other Artists arrangement, and I think that was the right and proper response absolutely, and it made me as an artist feel much more secure..None of the replies to this particular post mentioned that it was terrible breach of code of conduct..many of the respondents also joined in and ridiculed their fellow artist appallingly, and I didn’t see a moderator commenting on that either. Clearly is a free for all in that group, I see that, and I’m not saying that no-one should be criticized, but that sort of discloser and behavior makes people drop out of such groups and hurts all of us the industry. And in the interest of what the forum was initially setting out to do, I can only see such behavior as being totally counter-productive.

My suggestions I have made through the forum over the last year, were not directives but ideas, and I was looking forward to some debate on them, some collaboration or disagreement, but no solutions or ideas were even mentioned. Only the same old stuff went round and round, and I contributed to that at times too.

Now, if I were a new artist in Second Life, and made those suggestions, I would really feel that the this particular forum was not encouraging new ideas at all, but just a place for hanging out, for the same small group of people and a place where it seems they are not open to any ideas at all! certainly not even as much as disagreeing with some.. it seems too hard perhaps? Maybe there are too many jaded people on SLMC to even take me to task for my ideas..even to say “oh we’ve heard it all before”, nope they took some of my comments the wrong way, and got stuck in the same old groove, of praising those that play for tips and for free (because they can afford it mind) and accusing those who want a fee over the venue’s ability to pay it, as the baddies..and those baddies are obviously also deluded, greedy, and losers in RL. Yes there are musicians who think they are gods gift and sneer at freebies and tips only, but it seems just as many as venue owners sneer and howl at musicians who ask for a fee that would be low by any other standard held in SL for an hours work by a consultant ect..equally highly skilled and sought after in his field.

I’m sorry if that wasn’t the intent of some of the forum members to portray this attitude, but with a few frayed tempers that attitude sure came across to me.

I stick to my guns on this one. There is room for all, on here in the SL music industry, swindlers and crooks included, as there is in RL, the love of music is not in question, although its touted around like a badge of honor by some as if that makes them higher in morals… I support all ventures in music, weather they be free ones, or paid ones. As long as no one is intentionally getting ripped off, the music industry here cannot afford to be so divisive and set in its ideas.

There was a response that said that loads of the really hard working and successful musicians in SL do not post on the Forum, and are never seen there…and its probably because they do not want to waste their time, they are too busy just doing it, and not caring about what some people in the music industry here in SL think…good on them but what a shame to waste such a valuable resource.

I will post more about this as we go on, because things in the music industry in SL are changing.

And I’m interested to see how things develop on many levels with the change in Popular places and in land prices.

Until we as a music industry here can have someone promote us professionally in real life press, and find a common ground, we will just limp along in the same busking one man band style…Although they won’t admit it I believe some people are happy to continue that way its suits them..like a few others in SL Im part of a band, and SL is not geared up for bands only solo acts with this American tipping economy..

Real life publicity will get much more awareness out there than SL publicity Campaign thats clear, and thats no easy task, at least they will hear about us, but when they find us will it be what they expect or what they want? Do we know? probably not! as about 50% of them don’t speak English and don’t know what tipping is..and they are ignored…And thats a big population to ignore. The rest of the world is here folks and they don’t do things Americas way or any other English speaking nations way, for that matter, do we expect them to adapt to us? how sanctimonious..perhaps we should get over ourselves and arrange things their way? and just what is that?

Paisley Beebe

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A coupla M’s turned up at todays show? who were they? were they M Lindens alts…or pretenders to the throne…challengers to the Kindom so to speak of M…Tonights show featured the wonderfull Whimsy of Whimsy Winx and her flamingo fetish followers pinking out the place all over! and the wonderfull Beth Oddets and her band partner Yep, frying fish with Chickens…there were 2 chickens to start and one got fried…well I assume it did as we couldn’t find it, if you find a lone chicken wandering aimlessly at Northpoint please alert the staff..its against SL regulations to have loose chickens fouling up the joint!

Im wondering about the M thing..as many of us are? its Mark Kingdon obiously who has named a newbie avater M Linden is it just straight forward…couldn’t think of a name…ummm didn’t want to choose something everyone might make fun of..or is it to add some mystery to Mark? or anything to do with M as in 007 at all? as many people suggest…the gadget man…who is as old as Mathusla now of course…perhaps M will be like Dr Who and just reinvent himslef each few episodes…on Bond I mean…or have a brain transplant in some future episode so the caracter remains I mean he gets older but Bond doesn’t although he was allways a bit elderly. Does this mean if there is a connection that mark will stay forever 40ish…which Im guessing he is…is he a wiz with Gadgets?
put a few more of those M avatars together and you will get mmmm which can mean many things to many people
Any way if you haven’t see this weeks show I advise you do!

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